Comments on: ‘O For A Muse of Fire’ Analysis

By: bygrinstow

bygrinstow — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 19:50:03 +0000

Would the players have all been on stage during this? If so, then “like himself” could be a point at which the speaker would point out “Harry” as if to say “this is the star of the show, folks!”

By: John

John — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 17:18:29 +0000

Ben and Dave are closer to the meaning of that phrase than Raymond. A friend of mine just died–he was a director and retired theater professor, and assigned this speech to his students every semester for over 25 years. When he got the word that his cancer was terminal, he arranged his memorial service, picked his favorite monologues and songs, picked friends to perform them, and rehearsed with them. He died recently, and I am reading this speech. His take on that line, which bugged the hell out of me at first, too, is simply that the point of the whole speech is that it sets up the differences between the real historical action and the necessarily more limited play about it. If we had an infinite budget and could use the original locations and people, the actor playing King Henry in our production would be godlike, just like the real one was. But we don’t have all that; you’ll have to use your imagination.

By: raymond

raymond — Tue, 03 Dec 2013 14:42:14 +0000

Ben is wrong in his interpretation of the words ‘like himself’. It means what the translation says it means. Harry is acting within his nature, giving birth to his true self.

By: Dave

Dave — Tue, 03 Dec 2013 08:12:37 +0000

Man! I wish god – but, like a pissed off greek god of war! – could help us make our play as high and awesome as it deserves to be! I wish this screen was the size of a country, and that instead of actors we had real heros and warriors, and we were being watched by the great men of our country’s history! Then king Harry – who in this play is ready to fuck shit up – would become like that pissed-off god of war – which is how he really was back in the day! Troops and Nukes and WMDs would be like dogs at his feet, ready to be let off the chain and wreck shit.

But ladies and gentlemen, we don’t have all of that. You’ve got to forgive us – we’re just simple people, actors, who dare to step in front of a little camera and try and show you a glimpse of these great events like they were. Can this movie theater contain the sweeping fields of France? Can the screen even fit the *helmets* on all the french troops – that in real life were terrifying to see – at the battles we’re going to show you? No, man.

So, forgive us. But a one with a couple zeros tacked on can become a hundred, we (who are basically zeros ourselves compared to the people we’re playing) can at least stimulate your imagination. But you’ve got to buy in. You’ve got to imagine two of history’s greatest kingdoms, divided by a tiny, perilous ocean, right here in the theater with you. Make up for what we’re lacking with your imagination. For every guy on stage, imagine there are a thousand, an army. When we talk about horses, picture them: planting their proud hooves in the soft dirt. Because we need your imagination to put robes on our kings, and take us from city to city, and take a story that takes place over many years into a two hour movie.

I’m going to be your guide, like the choruses in old greek plays, here to help tell the story. And like anyone giving an intro, I just ask you to listen, and don’t judge us too harshly.

By: Ben

Ben — Fri, 04 Oct 2013 09:09:54 +0000

It’s a great idea to have translations of Shakespeare into modern English, but this isn’t a great translation.

“The warlike Harry, just being himself” — what’s that supposed to mean. Surely the original means that in the ideal world envisioned by the Chorus, King Henry himself would be playing the part of Hal.

“Since one figure can represent a million on the stage” — no, the reference is to the crooked figure, the digit 1, which can in its proper place (i.e. if followed by six zeroes) represent a million. “Let us, ciphers to this great accompt” is a Shakespearian pun. The actors are ciphers, codes, because they portray reality without actually being reality. But “cipher” is also another word for the digit 0 — exactly what is needed to turn a humble 1 into 1,000,000.

The text is so much richer than portrayed by this translation. Translate and explain by all means, but it would be great if the translation did justice to the original.